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 | | Subject: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:10 pm | |
| They're not good people and deserve to die. I think Obsidian was on crack when they made this game sometimes. Hmm...I have good Karma, Brotherhood attack me for no reason...yep, they're bad people. Dumbasses, Obsidian. |
|  | | Majora1988
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Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:28 pm | |
| I don't find the Brotherhood evil anymore than I find the NCR evil. They're just isolationist and want to be left alone. You might have done something to piss them off, hence the attacking. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:36 pm | |
| Well.... | Spoiler: | | | I kinda went in their bunker and told the lone NCR scout that they were there. Still, they are still smartass little faggots. People that put explosive collars on other people are generally not looked highly upon. I have to kill them anyways, for a mission, but it's stupid to lose karma over. |
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| | | | Majora1988
Posts: 1552
Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:40 pm | |
| | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | Well....
| Spoiler: | | | I kinda went in their bunker and told the lone NCR scout that they were there. Still, they are still smartass little faggots. People that put explosive collars on other people are generally not looked highly upon. I have to kill them anyways, for a mission, but it's stupid to lose karma over. |
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Well, that's probably why you lost Karma, You did kinda go down there for the sole purpose of killing them all, that is usually considered bad karma. Besides, they only put that collar on you because
| Spoiler: | | | You agree to do it so they'll make you a member, and they only do that because you don't have a member of the brotherhood to vouch for you. If you take Veronica with you, they do not make you do the exploding collar thing. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:48 pm | |
| | Spoiler: | | | Considering the fact that they deserve it 100%, I should actually GAIN karma for killing them. They're retarded scumbags, not to mention they're an enemy of a force going for the greater good kinda thing. It would be like saying that if you killed Imperial Storm Troopers in a Star Wars game, you would lose karma. They're all just pretty much clones. The logic I'm just trying to understand, is why gain karma for killing Powder Gangers, but not for the Brotherhood? |
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| | | | Majora1988
Posts: 1552
Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:49 pm | |
| | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Spoiler: | | | Considering the fact that they deserve it 100%, I should actually GAIN karma for killing them. They're retarded scumbags, not to mention they're an enemy of a force going for the greater good kinda thing. It would be like saying that if you killed Imperial Storm Troopers in a Star Wars game, you would lose karma. They're all just pretty much clones. The logic I'm just trying to understand, is why gain karma for killing Powder Gangers, but not for the Brotherhood? |
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Wait, you're going to have to explain why the Brotherhood is evil, I'm not following here. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| | Spoiler: | | | They're an enemy of the Republic, which, in the Fallout story, is trying to protect people in the Wasteland. Because they are an enemy of the Republic, they are enemy of other people, thus making them evil. Not to mention this: just look at the armour they wear. |
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| | | | Kyuubey
Posts: 2004
Age: 16
Location: Minnesota
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| Hating the NCR doesn't make you evil. The NCR is really doing a poor job, and they deserve the hate. |
| | | | Majora1988
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Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:57 pm | |
| | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Spoiler: | | | They're an enemy of the Republic, which, in the Fallout story, is trying to protect people in the Wasteland. Because they are an enemy of the Republic, they are enemy of other people, thus making them evil. Not to mention this: just look at the armour they wear. |
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| Spoiler: | | | But the Republic isn't really good either, the Brotherhood was attacked by them first, because the Republic wanted the Helios tower, which the Brotherhood was trying to disable, Because it was a giant death ray. The NCR may be good to its citizens, but if you aren't one, they don't give two shits about you. I kinda feel the Brotherhood is the same, just more insular and not interested in expanding its borders at the expense of the tribals. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:58 pm | |
| | Majora1988 wrote: | | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Spoiler: | | | They're an enemy of the Republic, which, in the Fallout story, is trying to protect people in the Wasteland. Because they are an enemy of the Republic, they are enemy of other people, thus making them evil. Not to mention this: just look at the armour they wear. |
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| Spoiler: | | | But the Republic isn't really good either, the Brotherhood was attacked by them first, because the Republic wanted the Helios tower, which the Brotherhood was trying to disable, Because it was a giant death ray. The NCR may be good to its citizens, but if you aren't one, they don't give two shits about you. I kinda feel the Brotherhood is the same, just more insular and not interested in expanding its borders at the expense of the tribals. |
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| Spoiler: | | | Well, still. Just look at their armour? Do think anybody good would wear a contraption like that? |
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| | | | Kyuubey
Posts: 2004
Age: 16
Location: Minnesota
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:59 pm | |
| The NCR uses power armor, Kitsune. |
| | | | Majora1988
Posts: 1552
Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:59 pm | |
| | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Majora1988 wrote: | | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Spoiler: | | | They're an enemy of the Republic, which, in the Fallout story, is trying to protect people in the Wasteland. Because they are an enemy of the Republic, they are enemy of other people, thus making them evil. Not to mention this: just look at the armour they wear. |
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| Spoiler: | | | But the Republic isn't really good either, the Brotherhood was attacked by them first, because the Republic wanted the Helios tower, which the Brotherhood was trying to disable, Because it was a giant death ray. The NCR may be good to its citizens, but if you aren't one, they don't give two shits about you. I kinda feel the Brotherhood is the same, just more insular and not interested in expanding its borders at the expense of the tribals. |
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| Spoiler: | | | Well, still. Just look at their armour? Do think anybody good would wear a contraption like that? |
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Yes. Batman would. Also, if you're interested, the background on the BoS is pretty interesting IMO.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:03 pm | |
| Well, that is interesting, but I still don't like them. |
| | | | Majora1988
Posts: 1552
Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:06 pm | |
| | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Well, that is interesting, but I still don't like them. |
Yeah, they certainly aren't good either, but I like them, mostly because power armor is cool. And they're like a crusader order of knights, which I find fascinating. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:12 pm | |
| Yeah, they kinda have a medieval time thing to them.
At least they're not like the Chuck-E-Cheese Legion fags, complete with Tokens and all. xD |
| | | | Kyuubey
Posts: 2004
Age: 16
Location: Minnesota
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:22 pm | |
| Caesar's Legion > Kitsune |
| | | | zk50 x erk
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Age: 19
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:38 pm | |
| I love the power armor they have. If you saw someone wearing that you would be like "oh shit I dont want to fuck with that guy". But just because armor looks like that doesnt mean they are evil or anything, it just shows they want to be protected in a hostile environment such as the wasteland. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:56 pm | |
| | Higurashi wrote: | | Caesar's Legion > Kitsune |
I don't think so, I've got shotgun shells loaded with their own Chuck-E-Cheese tokens to kill them with. |
| | | | Majora1988
Posts: 1552
Age: 23
Location: Texas
| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| | Kitsune no Kaji wrote: | | Higurashi wrote: | | Caesar's Legion > Kitsune |
I don't think so, I've got shotgun shells loaded with their own Chuck-E-Cheese tokens to kill them with. |
Whatevs, Chuk E. Cheese's Arcade > everyone. That place is like my childhood in a bubble. |
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| | Subject: Re: Why do you lose karma for killing Brotherhood of Steel members? Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:07 pm | |
| Lol, yeah, to tell the truth, I actually used to love Chuck-E-Cheese's xD |
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